Who Should Organise A Stag Do? Andrew Corcoran from Simple Stagmin shares his amazing tips on how his service not only saves money and time but also stress!
Listen to Andrew on the Wedding Espresso Awesome DIY Wedding Planning Podcast…
James: [00:00:03] Andrew hello. Thank you so much for joining me today.
Andrew: [00:00:07] No problem.Thank you very much for the opportunity, it’s good to talk.
James: [00:00:11] Brilliant. An absolute pleasure to have you with us. So your company is “Simple Stagmin” and you basically, if I’ve got this right,
you take the pressure off the best men and the groomsmen from having to plan the stag do?
Andrew: [00:00:26] Yeah. Yeah. So basically we are that support if you like. Almost like a best man’s, best man. So although we think it’s vital that the best man takes the lead on organising the stag do, obviously they’ve got the honour, they’ve been appointed, they know best. So we just facilitate and encourage them to try and make something personable, to give the groom a fitting sendoff really, before they embark on married life. So although we think it’s important for the best man to take the lead, I think with stagmin, what we try, well…
what I try to promote is that the stagmin burden shouldn’t be on one person’s head basically.
James: [00:01:22] I love this idea because you know, it’s a great honour to be asked to be a best man. And you think “wow” you know, I’ve been chosen as the best man. I feel so proud. And then you know, maybe you sleep on it, you wake up in the morning, and then you go “oh no” you know, I’ve got this massive responsibility. And most people, I guess they’ve never planned anything like this in their lives. Certainly not to this extent.
Yeah it’s like having that kind of extra extra layer of stagmin, like the best of the best man. It’s such a great idea.
Andrew: [00:01:55] Yeah. It can be very daunting. And there’s so many things that come at you all at once. You’re organising a group spread out across the UK, they might be at the actual stag themselves. You need to contact friends and relatives. You may not know them all, and you’ve got to try and get them all together. So yeah we’re very much here to really dumb it down, and say look, these are the really fundamental checklists we need to do. We’ve got three checklists, it’s really, really basic.
But one of the best bits of advice I like to give from the start, is to get the groomsmen involved straightaway.
As they will be there for you to sort of bounce ideas off. As they know the stag, as well as you, and they’ll have ideas of their own. And they can be really imperative in all parts of the stag do, when you’re trying to get a big group together. If you’re trying to say, look, I need this in, and trying to chase stuff, and you’ve got four or five other people saying the same message, it can be a really big help. So we’re here to facilitate that happening.
Andrew: [00:03:13] But why I started it, and…
what we’re trying to do, is deliver what I call “true value for money”.
And this is something, when I had the honour of being the best man in 2015, I felt was missing when I went out and tried to do a bit of research and things like that. I found it really difficult to understand travel agents costs. Because they hid their costs in the accommodation, the hotel. So my approach is very much to fit that. Be open and be honest, be transparent. Right from the start saying that if you want us to plan this, this is the fixed fee. And then we kind of flip that and any sort of commission, things like that, discounts, which I negotiate on the groups behalf, is given back in full. So yeah, the ultimate aim really is to deliver the arrangement that they come to, for less than if they had booked it themselves. So yeah that’s what I’m about, that’s what Simple Stagmin is all about.
James: [00:04:30] Right! That’s a really fantastic perspective actually.
So traditionally speaking then, who should organise a stag do? Is it the groom? Is it the best man? Is it the team? Who would you say traditionally takes that role?
Andrew: [00:04:45] It is the the best man, so to speak.
The person who’s been appointed to be the groom’s best man on this big day, ultimately should be the one who’s taking the lead.
Like I said, get other people involved in things because they… like you say, some people may have never done anything like that in their life. So if someone in the group of friends is good at that sort of thing, then great! But really you can, with my approach, if you know what you want, and you make it personable to the groom, then the actual planning becomes so much more easy. If you go out into the market and have an idea of what you want, rather than being sold something you don’t, then that puts you in a really strong position. So yeah I think the best man is the best play. Ultimately you mentioned the groom getting involved, which can help, but they’ve probably got enough on with the Wedding.
James: [00:05:43] Absolutely, yeah.
Andrew: [00:05:45] And not waiting on them, and I’m sure they’re getting their ear chewed off already and it won’t go down too well with the bride, if the groom was busy organising the stag do.
James: [00:05:57] This is true.
Andrew: [00:05:58] So yeah I think it’s an opportunity for any best man, or best friend, to sort of take that burden off and say listen, I’ve got this under control, so you just relax and turn up, if you dare, so to speak.
James: [00:06:14] So I mean from where I’m sitting then,
I guess Simple Stagmin, the company, is really like a best man’s secret Swiss Army Knife kind of plug in. It’s going to help them out big time. Especially if they’re not comfortable in planning things themselves.
Andrew: [00:06:29] I think, like you say, if you’re not comfortable planning things, even if you are, I think that there’s insights that help too. So obviously…
I set this up because I was the best man, and it’s on the back of some of the frustrations, and the service that I received when trying to plan.
So with anything you can think of, I don’t know if anyone has booked a holiday? It’s imperative that you really do get in touch. There’s no catches whatsoever. So I help plan the stag do. Build an itinerary, build a budget, that they can then go and see whether they want to join in, and can afford it. Because affordability is a really big problem nowadays for people being able to afford these events. But as a result of that, there’s no sales calls, there’s no mailing list. There’s nothing like that. I don’t treat anyone how I wouldn’t want to be treated myself, because it’s such a small operation and a new thing. I would definitely be sticking to those kinds of morals rather than be like the crowd, so to speak.
James: [00:07:54] Yeah it makes a lot of sense.
Andrew: [00:07:57] Yeah. That’s really my sort of approach.
James: [00:08:01] So it’s basically, if we’re talking about the expense then, we are largely talking about travel and going abroad aren’t we? So do you actually also organise stag dos locally in the UK?
Andrew: [00:08:12] Yes. Yes. Anything that needs organising. Day trips. Yeah, anything like that. If you’ve got an event to plan then it’s all flexible to do that. And like I said, it is a fairly new thing, it is stag do related. The only sort of restriction there, is in the brand. It’s all set up to plan group travel. We’re branded for stag dos, but obviously having that experience, that’s where we’re at. But if you think about it, we can take enquires for hen dos. I mean, I think you mentioned what I call sten dos, where grooms and brides do their events together.
James: [00:09:02] We called ours a hag do. Same thing!
Andrew: [00:09:05] Yeah. But they’re becoming more popular.
If you’ve got an event basically, and you need some help with your costing, then we can help in any way, shape or form.
James: [00:09:17] I guess another angle on this really is even if you’ve had experience planning something, we’re blokes, right? So we have laser focus. If we’re going go karting, we’re thinking about the racing. You know, we’re thinking about the go karting. Or if we’re going to go jump out of a plane. That’s where our brains are. Very rarely do we ever kind of make a checklist, and go through the you know, this is what we need to actually get there. So I guess having you on board as well is going to make sure that they don’t trip up, and miss booking the bus to get the people there, you know. Because that’s the likelihood isn’t it? That they’re going to book the thing, and then mess up the logistics. So I guess that’s another angle of why it’s a really good idea.
Andrew: [00:10:01] It really is! As eventful as that is, missing the bus is essentially the end of the day. You’re right! Having that something documented, and just something that gets sent around. The amount of times, even if you do send it around, the amount times you get asked “when are we meeting”. And you say “read it, read it”. Yeah. So yeah definitely. Logistics, none of us would ever think about that. And it’s surprising how many… well…
what I found when I started, how many companies didn’t really, what I consider to be, deliver the full package from your house to the airport, or to the event, to your accommodation.
Or airport transfers abroad, they don’t tend to think about that. The last thing you really want to do when you come back from a weekend abroad is to pick up your car from the airport and drive home.
Andrew: [00:11:02] So yeah you’re right.
Every little thing needs to be considered. And that’s where we come in.
I mean the more you want, the more time it will take, and that’s reflected in our fixed price, our fair fixed price. Which is the same standard for everyone. So there’s nothing extra, the way we’ve set it up, I can’t really push ideas onto you, it’s still very much personal and bespoke to you. And then we just set it up that way.
Andrew: [00:11:33] So yes, I’m loving it. Like I said, I was a best man in 2015. I probably chewed my girlfriend’s ear off and all my mates saying I’ve got this great idea, for a few years. And luckily, to be fair, my girlfriend, she was the boost I needed to say “just get on with it”. So we’ve been trading a year now. And yes it’s really starting to resonate with people. There is something different out there. And although pricing of it is complicated, people are really starting to get the message, and at the end of the day, when I can hand back a kitty to them and say “just let you know, we’ve budgeted £300 pounds and it came in at £278.63.
Here’s some money. Get the guys some drinks at the airport. And that’s really what it’s all about.
Andrew: [00:12:32] Well listen Andrew, I think it’s a fantastic idea. I think it’s really cool. Obviously we’re going to be sharing the heck out of it. So I’m looking forward to that. But I just want to thank you for sharing it with us today. You know that’s been really insightful. I think that was really, really useful. And obviously we look forward to speaking to you again soon in the future.
Andrew: [00:12:56] No problem. Thank you very much for your time.
James: [00:12:57] All right. Take care Andrew. Thanks a lot. Bye for now.